The NC Mall Officially Gives an Unfair advantage.

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The NC Mall Officially Gives an Unfair advantage.

Post by Bacon »

What? They said you wouldn't be able to have an advatage by buying NC mall stuff?!? Guess they lied!

For a limited time, you can buy a Winged Talisman, which if you don't already know, can be used to Decrease gravity and increase flight time in Shenkuu River Rush! This makes a high score easier to get, and that would mean you'd need real money to achieve a high score theoretically if enough people bought the item!
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Post by AngharadTy »

I will point out that "making a high score <i>easier</i> by paying money" is not nearly the same as "making a high score <i>only possible</i> by paying money."
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Post by Bacon »

I know, but I did say theoretically.
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Yes, but I think the distinction between possible/not possible also makes the distinction between fair/unfair.
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Post by Iggy »

I don't care, I suck at that game anyways. =)

And, the benefits are minimal compared if you could actually sell/trade the items
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Yeah, this earns a big "meh" from me. They stick a 100% freezer in there for $10, then I'll complain.
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Two words: slippery slope.
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Post by Illuen »

I don't think this is a big deal at all. I'd say this is a minimal advantage, no more of an advantage than anything Premium gives, and simply having the item does not immediately let you get a trophy. You have to be skilled in the game itself, otherwise the gem is just as useless as it normally would be.
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Post by Cranberry »

Yeah, it's even less useful than that space faerie charm thing you can get from premium, which randomly raises game payouts and stuff. This gives you a (slight) advantage in ONE game. There are a bunch of other items floating around the site that also give slight advantages in the game, and this is the only one you can buy for real money.
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Post by Wingsrising »

Well, I'll be damned... this week's Editorial actually has a long and thoughful response on this very issue.
TNT Editorial Person wrote: To be honest, it ended up in the Mall due to a communication breakdown amongst the staff. The item was nominated to be placed in the Mall, but it was sort of in limbo. Everyone had differing opinions on it and we were discussing those opinions, but it ended up being approved to go up anyway. Basically, we fudged a bit.

As for the differing opinions... well, each side had valid points. You have to be good at the game in the first place or the item does no good for you. Essentially, it doesn't make a very poor player into a superstar, trophy-winner overnight. Also, users who are great at the game will already be earning their 1,000 NP maximum each go anyway and can't earn any more, so it doesn't make anyone "rich" from using it. Those users who can't earn 1,000 NP in the game without the talisman could be spending the same time playing a different game they're better at, so all the talisman did was let them earn the NP on a game they like more. Obviously, though, the other folks at the table worried about the affect on trophy spots. Trophies earn Neopoints, and they earn prestige, which is part of the game as well. (Unlike with Mall wearables, you can't tell who earned the trophy on their own or who earned it with the help of the Winged Talisman, though, interestingly, the same can be said for the other Shenkuu River Rush game-play items you can purchase for Neopoints.)

Anyway, this is why we were in debates and the item shouldn't have gone up just yet. But it did go up, so we gauged your reactions, watched high score lists, monitored the Neopoints won, etc. (things we always do when we launch something new). We know "functional" items would sell very well, and one of the reasons the Mall exists is to earn revenue, but we don't want anyone to be able to buy their way through the game of Neopets. So, we're trying our best to come up with items that are useful but don't give anyone a huge advantage - the perfect balance. We can think about these things until our brains implode and not know what exactly will happen with certain items, so this was a very informative accident. We'll keep trying more items, and some of them won't work, but the only way for us to know is to test them. So, in the future, you'll see more and different types of items in the Mall. Feel free to send us your feedback, or even your own item ideas.

(By the way, thanks to the folks who sent in feedback and participated in boards that discussed the item rationally and logically - those who understood both sides but still expressed their concerns with the item. It's our decision, but we *do* actually listen, despite what some think. Complaints without valid reasoning or logic do nothing to help us see your points!)

In the end, we decided to take the talisman down come Tuesday when we had the next Mall update. It should be noted that no one who has earned a trophy since it sold has purchased the talisman. We'll continue to watch it since those who purchased the item paid for it and are able to keep it until it expires, but so far, it has not been detrimental to the high score list.
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