Some help with Montre back legs? (Kinda large pic)
Some help with Montre back legs? (Kinda large pic)
So being the newly converted Subeta addict that I am, I'm trying to doodle up my three pets from the site. My Montre Leo though is proving to be difficult. He's a miserable little guy that seems to enjoy letting the whole world know just how depressed he is. And no, that's not just a mess up on his front leg, it really is malformed intentionally. Where I'm having an issue is getting his hind quarters to look right. Think any of you art gurus of the NC could help me figure out exactly what is off about his hind legs? Thanks!
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I think your problem might be that you've been a bit heavy-handed with the legs. Here's a dog sitting down:
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previe ... 006254.JPG
The paws are a lot smaller and the legs are thinner. Montres have slightly fatter legs, but <a href="http://www.neocolours.me.uk/subeta/sube ... ontre">not that much</a>, and the paws are longer and less boxy. The hind leg, as it is right now, doesn't have the joints you can see in that dog picture - have a look at <a href="http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6804416/">this one</a> as well to see what I mean about there being an obvious "knee" but also a joint behind it, and when the leg folds into a sitting position you'll be able to see a fairly obvious line along the hind leg. Try it with your own leg (remembering that the dog equivalent of "feet" are a lot longer) - there's a line between your thigh and your calves if you try and <a href="http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbv ... e.jpg">sit in that position</a> (nude, but worksafe); your thigh and calves don't appear to be just one thing. You have the line between the calves and the foot, but not the thigh line. (Dog legs are essentially like human legs, but where we walk on our entire feet, plantigrade, they walk on their toes, digitigrade. So if you ever need a reference for the way a dog leg works, look at your own, but remember that the distance between the ball of your foot and your heel would be proportionally a lot longer if you were a dog, and your thighs and calves would be shorter.)
As for the Montre's "feet", they need to be shortened considerably - have a look at the first dog picture again to see what I mean; the feet end roughly where a line extended directly downwards from the "knee" would go. And again the paws taper, they aren't squared off. At the same time, the "thigh/calves" part could probably do with enlarging slightly if you're going to drop a line down from the knee, since Montres are quite big there, bigger than real dogs.
I hope this all makes sense and isn't too harsh
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previe ... 006254.JPG
The paws are a lot smaller and the legs are thinner. Montres have slightly fatter legs, but <a href="http://www.neocolours.me.uk/subeta/sube ... ontre">not that much</a>, and the paws are longer and less boxy. The hind leg, as it is right now, doesn't have the joints you can see in that dog picture - have a look at <a href="http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/6804416/">this one</a> as well to see what I mean about there being an obvious "knee" but also a joint behind it, and when the leg folds into a sitting position you'll be able to see a fairly obvious line along the hind leg. Try it with your own leg (remembering that the dog equivalent of "feet" are a lot longer) - there's a line between your thigh and your calves if you try and <a href="http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbv ... e.jpg">sit in that position</a> (nude, but worksafe); your thigh and calves don't appear to be just one thing. You have the line between the calves and the foot, but not the thigh line. (Dog legs are essentially like human legs, but where we walk on our entire feet, plantigrade, they walk on their toes, digitigrade. So if you ever need a reference for the way a dog leg works, look at your own, but remember that the distance between the ball of your foot and your heel would be proportionally a lot longer if you were a dog, and your thighs and calves would be shorter.)
As for the Montre's "feet", they need to be shortened considerably - have a look at the first dog picture again to see what I mean; the feet end roughly where a line extended directly downwards from the "knee" would go. And again the paws taper, they aren't squared off. At the same time, the "thigh/calves" part could probably do with enlarging slightly if you're going to drop a line down from the knee, since Montres are quite big there, bigger than real dogs.
I hope this all makes sense and isn't too harsh
Oh it isn't too harsh at all, and I appreciate the help, as always. I think I'll wait til after breakfast has settled though before I come back and try to digest this again. It is a lot to take in, but makes sense from a general first read through. I'll be on vacation for a week in the mountains so hey, maybe it'll be a good environment to take my sketch and work on the limbs a little more and when I get back I can edit this post with a much improved set of legs. To all those that helped, here and in mails, thanks. ^^ There's definitely a reason this is the first place I go for art assistance.
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