Chai and Dragon revamp (+ staff discussion)
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I notice no staff has even mentioned the possibility of the "compromise" dragon that we were promised...I want to know if that was Keith blowing smoke up our asses or if there actually is going to be a compromise version coming out sometime in the future. I have the sinking suspicion that it was just a statement made to placate the angry throngs immediately after the dragon revamp and that nothing will ever come of it. The fact that they keep releasing new dragon colors just solidifies my suspicion. I want my damn dragon back!!! I want the fat,wise, whiskered, non-winged version back. Or at least something close to it(coughGoldenchaoscough).
As for the whole we can't accept free art when we are paying other artists...well that just sounds downright stupid, unless there is a contract that artists have to sign now. If there are contracts involved and non-competition clauses I can understand not wanting to take free art as it could cause copyright problems later on. If it's just a "hey we want to do it this way" type of thing, well it seems silly to me. If a better artists wants to supply Subeta with great drawings for free then why in the hell wouldn't they take them up on it? Especially when their "paid" staff has been getting hammered with crits lately(with some notable exceptions) and have been putting out substandard art(as compared with some old art and some "free" art). Most of the revamps that have been done lately are great artistically and I understand that Subeta is trying to have a "uniform style". I just strongly disagree with that whole concept as diversity is what attracted me to the site and the slowly creeping lack thereof anymore is pushing me away from it. Sometimes different is good. Sometimes colored line art looks better than black line art. God forbid we have something that doesn't conform. Not all "old" art is bad. Some of it just needs a little tweak here and there...not a whole damn overhaul Bring me back my sweet dragon that I loved and cherished dammit!!
As for the whole we can't accept free art when we are paying other artists...well that just sounds downright stupid, unless there is a contract that artists have to sign now. If there are contracts involved and non-competition clauses I can understand not wanting to take free art as it could cause copyright problems later on. If it's just a "hey we want to do it this way" type of thing, well it seems silly to me. If a better artists wants to supply Subeta with great drawings for free then why in the hell wouldn't they take them up on it? Especially when their "paid" staff has been getting hammered with crits lately(with some notable exceptions) and have been putting out substandard art(as compared with some old art and some "free" art). Most of the revamps that have been done lately are great artistically and I understand that Subeta is trying to have a "uniform style". I just strongly disagree with that whole concept as diversity is what attracted me to the site and the slowly creeping lack thereof anymore is pushing me away from it. Sometimes different is good. Sometimes colored line art looks better than black line art. God forbid we have something that doesn't conform. Not all "old" art is bad. Some of it just needs a little tweak here and there...not a whole damn overhaul Bring me back my sweet dragon that I loved and cherished dammit!!
Sorry to re-surface this, but I think this should be looked at:
http://www.subetax.org/forums/index.php
Another classic example of artists not taking very well to constructive criticism, or what the users are saying. Also, there's a very obvious hint that the montre's are probably going to change. No happy at all about this. I love the Montre for what it is, and quite frankly I think the angelic one is one of the most beautiful angelics out there right now (exactly WHAT is wrong with it? I don't see it as being outdated in the least bit!) - in fact I was saving my last pet slot for one... but now that I've heard they are probably going to change, I'm not so sure I want to now - because if it ends up looking like the Galactic one, I'll be awfully mad.
http://www.subetax.org/forums/index.php
Another classic example of artists not taking very well to constructive criticism, or what the users are saying. Also, there's a very obvious hint that the montre's are probably going to change. No happy at all about this. I love the Montre for what it is, and quite frankly I think the angelic one is one of the most beautiful angelics out there right now (exactly WHAT is wrong with it? I don't see it as being outdated in the least bit!) - in fact I was saving my last pet slot for one... but now that I've heard they are probably going to change, I'm not so sure I want to now - because if it ends up looking like the Galactic one, I'll be awfully mad.
I assume you're referring to this thread? I must say, Exhibitted's post toward the end of the page certainly came off pretty poorly to me. The posts on the second page aren't great either.
The balls of evil are never safe from the steel-toed boot of JUSTICE!!!
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I thought whoever pointed out that pets do not HAVE to conform to the spectrum=joyful/reborn=stately/whatever mold had a good point -- some of the pets have strong enough personalities to break the mold, like the angelic charlie and mortiking and the spectrum charlie. I'd hate to lose that individuality just so they could conform to the color standard.
Yes, that was the thread. I forgot that the new forum system doesn't have individual links anymore.
Not only were Exhibitted's posts extremly rude, but DNA's post blew me out of the water (and not in a good way!). It's just another peg for me that shows she's extremely poor with taking crits and/or handling the populus. Her PR skills (along with many other artists I've seen lately) are very lacking.
I've only been on Subeta for 6 months, but already I'm deliberating over leaving because of all the excessive drama, rudeness and utter lack of feeling from much of the staff these days.
Not only were Exhibitted's posts extremly rude, but DNA's post blew me out of the water (and not in a good way!). It's just another peg for me that shows she's extremely poor with taking crits and/or handling the populus. Her PR skills (along with many other artists I've seen lately) are very lacking.
I've only been on Subeta for 6 months, but already I'm deliberating over leaving because of all the excessive drama, rudeness and utter lack of feeling from much of the staff these days.
Thank you Cranberry. I appreciate that you feel the same.I thought whoever pointed out that pets do not HAVE to conform to the spectrum=joyful/reborn=stately/whatever mold had a good point
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